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(DeadLamb) it would be advisable to note in ALL nfos that the selling or gaining of profit in distribution of these materials is illegal
(@necrotoad) of an nfo ?
(@necrotoad) thats illegal to distro them ?
(DeadLamb) ya, and what they are connected to
(@necrotoad) information
(DeadLamb) by definition, the "mob" (according to declan mcullah) is stealing your art and selling it
(@necrotoad) nfo .. information ..
(DeadLamb) put a shareware-type disclaimer on all of them
(DeadLamb) cuz right now us doj and dhs are trying to tie art and presentation into the packaging of that which is illegally sold.
(DeadLamb) seriously.
(DeadLamb) make sure FBI and their global goons (like norway) can't frame you for being associated with al-qaeda and whatnot.
(@nerv) what's illegal about artpacks? ...
(DeadLamb) NOTHING... its the criminal gangs that are stealing your shit and selling it for profit that goes to real terrorists thats the problem
(DeadLamb) so make it illegal to redistribute for profit
(@nerv) ... plus sac have been releasing packs for more than ten years now ...
(DeadLamb) yep
(DeadLamb) but the times change
(@nerv) "criminal gangs"? "stealing our shit"? "selling it"? "real terrorists"?
(@nerv) wtf
(@retroboy) wtf?
(DeadLamb) and ifyou tag all nfo/etc structures with a standard shareware-type "license" or authority to use line
(DeadLamb) you dont have that probem.
(DeadLamb) read the news.
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, now why the hell would we do that?
(@nerv) ok if i understand well
(DeadLamb) I assume you would prefer to be executed as a supporter of terrorism?
(@nerv) warez grps steal our ascii/gfx/music/code/whatever
(@nerv) then they sell it (to who?)
(@nerv) and give the money to real terrorist
(@nerv) so we need to put a shareware licence for our work
(DeadLamb) no, its the criminal gangs that steal the warez releases and make profit off of it
(@nerv) and all goes right
(DeadLamb) yep
(@nerv) OK SURE :D
(@nerv) bahahah
(DeadLamb) id suggest you read the news, children
(@nerv) yeah well what others are doing is their own problem ...
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, stop trolling kthx.
(@nerv) calling us "children" won't make you wiser you know =)
(DeadLamb) you seem to miss the point that your art ends up the primary element that funds the "terrorists"
(DeadLamb) put a fucking line in the file and prevent that problem.
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, uh, no, the main terrorist funding comes from drugs.
(@retroboy) selling pirated stuff mainly funds the mafia, yakuza, whatever. :-)
(@nerv) wahthth
(DeadLamb) well the real criminal gang terrorists own the drug and anti-drug operations
(DeadLamb) same criminal gangs
(@nerv) who drew al qaeda nfo?
(@nerv) :D
(DeadLamb) same target class
(DeadLamb) -- that chick in los vegas
(DeadLamb) ..
(@retroboy) right...
(DeadLamb) just realize that the art is the packaging and presentation, its completely fine, but needs to be guarantted logisticly integritive
(@retroboy) you're not even good at trolling.
(@retroboy) get lost.
(@necrotoad) can you point us to the news we're supposed to be reading ?
(DeadLamb) .. and it needs to be the carrier data for the NFO that protects you from whoever gets it
(DeadLamb) lemme find a couple urls...
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, it's the warez groups responsibility to apply the correct disclaimers, we are only the designers.
(@nerv) yeah i'm curious to see that ;p
(DeadLamb) http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-992468.html http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-5722835.html
(DeadLamb) retro, i understand that
(DeadLamb) but if they do not
(@necrotoad) so .. winrar is now resposible because they're being distro'd as compressed archives
(@necrotoad) thats the packaging
(DeadLamb) their "acquisition" of your art includes your art in wherever they send it
(DeadLamb) a composite element of the item that is sold for profit
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, there is no way in hell that would hold up in a court of law.
(@retroboy) esp not in .se
(DeadLamb) the americans and their goons elsewhere do not recognise law
(DeadLamb) and the term "conspiracy" has been severely morphed in the terrorists favour
(@nerv) so what ... i should complain to get a part of the money they get from selling warez stuff?
(@nerv) that's a good idea :p
(DeadLamb) lol... that would be kinda dumb
(@nerv) i'd be rich by now <3
(DeadLamb) but you should protect your work against their extortion
(DeadLamb) with one line
(@necrotoad) lol
(@necrotoad) many of those pirated copies sold don't come with a nfo
(@nerv) what should we put in the next pack DeadLamb?
(@nerv) tell me the exact words :p
(@nerv) i'll make sure to put'em there ;p
(DeadLamb) either reference an old shareware-type policy or put a line in
(DeadLamb) --- i havent researched the best phrasing yet.
(@nerv) any idea? it would help :>
(DeadLamb) it likely depends on your preferences
(@necrotoad) so i should call my lawyer and tell him all about you
(DeadLamb) the old shareware licence structures were quite clear and short... no more than 4 lines max
(@retroboy) or we'll just secure our bnc's and keep on doing what we do now... :-)
(DeadLamb) I'd also suggest referencing any known policy or cases that confirmed the logistics
(@retroboy) "if you're a terrorist please delete this file kthx"
(DeadLamb) you seem to lack the understanding that a bnc has a wire, kids.
(DeadLamb) n- ... it should be fairly easy to find the best policy
(DeadLamb) it likely depends on your technique of presentation
(DeadLamb) especially for nfo use
(@necrotoad) why are we the kids ? you seem to have no backing to your claim
(@retroboy) DeadLamb, well, if fbi admitted wiretapping on .eu nets they'd be in deep shit :-)
(@necrotoad) i live were there is no laws against what you claim
(@necrotoad) where*
(DeadLamb) in this context of this medium, all of the "services" units have a mandated tap since 1995
(DeadLamb) well tell that to the amerikkkans who will invade anywhere for profit
(DeadLamb) .. thats enough for now.
(DeadLamb) find the appropriate info, i suggest similar to shareware license, and implement please.
(DeadLamb) bbl.
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