Session Start: Thu Sep 18 09:56:18 1997
* Logging #discyple to: [#discyple.log]
<nahal> hey there
<dy452> what's up..
<nahal> not much.. 
<nahal> ok.. this is Nahal of Clitoris Ascii interviewing Discyple of the same 
        group.
<dy452> you logging all this?                                                
<nahal> yeah
<dy452> so let's get rolling
<nahal> hrmm.. ive never done an interview before btw :)
<nahal> guinea pig
<dy452> i'm your guinea pig?  well, whatever.
<nahal> anyway... basic info i guess.. .. current group, past groups, name, age
        measurements, etc
<nahal> oh wait i already said you were in clit
<nahal> fuck it
<nahal> anyway.. continue
<dy452> i'm in awe, clit, and remorse... alphabetized so no one thinks i rank i
        priority..
<nahal> heh
<nahal> youre still in awe?
<nahal> awe fucking rocks
<dy452> yeah, but awe is dying slowly, huh?
<nahal> yeah
<nahal> i know what you mean
<nahal> theyre like a year old now
<nahal> and i havent talked to tna in like half a year
<nahal> well.. almost
<dy452> yeah..  same here, he mails me often.. but i never see him on irc.
<nahal> aha
<dy452> i'm not really on irc terribly much anymore either
<nahal> ive been on a lot lately.. sort of a waste of time... whatever
<dy452> anyhow, moving right along..  my past groups .. who cares, i've been in
        a few.  i did start off with cia and noname brand, though... that 
        deserves mention.
<nahal> woop.. noname
<nahal> we rocked :)
<nahal> tell me a bit about noname
<nahal> i basically know.. but for the viewers :)
<dy452> well..  noname was (even though people don't know it) cain AND
        polymorph's creation.  i joined with them, under nathan's guidance, 
        and basically learned how to draw ascii there, until it died and we all
        moved on and grew up..
<nahal> yeah.. a lot of people dont really give Poly credit for being a founder
<dy452> it was probably my constant and prolific drawing that kept it alive in 
        he first few packs.  
<nahal> .. at least cain thought so at the time
<nahal> heh.. yeah.. you did a lot then. :) hell.. you still do
<nahal> i loved your joints back then
<dy452> nahh.. i don't do nearly as much, pic-wise.  i just do goofy stuff now,
        because everything else got boring.
<dy452> haha, we drew the craziest joints.  i remember one where i drew a black
        guy who looked like elvis presley
<nahal> hahahahhahhaa... i actually think i know which one youre talking about
<dy452> yeah?  it was a classic..  heh, i still wish i had noname packs
<nahal> noname was what got me into ascii btw.. i got  packs 1 2 and 3 off nyt'
        board (noname member)
<dy452> oh yeah?  i didn't know about that...  your fonts pretty much own 
        nowadays
<nahal> heh.. thanks man.. that means a lot
<nahal> youre my fav.. you have been from the start
<dy452> for real?  that means a lot to me..
<nahal> woop
<nahal> im serious :)
<nahal> hrmm.. anyway.. what were we talking about...
<nahal> info aobut you :)
<dy452> yeah..   i'm serious too.  haha, let's move on
<nahal> heh
<nahal> name?
<nahal> Scott Canada
<dy452> well, shit..  everyone knows my name is scott, no one really calls me 
discyple anymore
<dy452> right!  haha.. armen armenia.
<nahal> to the viewers.. inside jokes :)
<nahal> hehe
<dy452> i doubt many people even know where armenia is.
<dy452> i'm included in that group
<nahal> haha
<nahal> its a tiny island off the tip of south africa
<nahal> no...
<nahal> umm
<nahal> its a small country near the middle east.. it borders iran
<nahal> im a terrorist.. phear me
<nahal> heh
<nahal> well.. ok.. now on to some more interesting questions
<dy452> hahaha.. right, i live in victoria, british columbia.  i'm one of 2
        scene people in the entire city, the 2nd is my chinese neighbour, he's
 13 and i got him into ansi
<nahal> HAAHAHAHAHHA
<dy452> he was drawing at age 12, man.
<nahal> thats funny
<dy452> he used to come over every day in the winter, we played warcraft 2 and 
        rewed earl grey tea
<nahal> ahhh.. memories
<nahal> anyway... what is your opinion on the way the ascii scene is evolving  
        right now
<dy452> haha, the way it's "evolving"?  well, i never give this much thought. 
        it's definitely getting more refined 
        as far as styles go, and it seems it's pretty starved for creativity.  
        mean, look at some of the bullshit i draw that's touted as 'creative'.
    people dig it, and it's mainly bullshit
<nahal> heh
<nahal> well...
<nahal> youve had the style for a while.. thats true.. but.. its original :)
<nahal> and it looks cool
<nahal> dont be so hard on yourself
<nahal> be like me.. i know im the best newschooler around
<nahal> umm
<nahal> jk
<dy452> hahaha..  maybe :\
<nahal> seriously tho.. you rock.. heh.. thatll never change
<nahal> ok.. now that we're on the subject of creativity/ originality... who ar
 your favorite ascii artists.. fonts and pics seperately
<dy452> ahh..  well, forget this question.  i'd miss someone out, and i don't  
        want to do that.  everyone who knows i love them.. knows it.
<nahal> heh.. 
<nahal> its like doing greets
<nahal> i hate it
<dy452> yeah, i stay away from greets and questions that make you list off name
        ..  it's just not worth it
<nahal> agreed
<nahal> ok.. new question.. what are your feelings toward oldschool... 
<dy452> well..  i've drawn maybe 3 oldschool asciis.  every time, they sucked  
        cock.  i don't understand oldschool, or even pretend to.  granted, some
    of it is cool, but i still can't glance at it and make a judgment one 
 way or the other
<nahal> yeah.. same here
<dy452> so i generally stay away from it..   
<nahal> this sucks i cant think of any more questions
<dy452> well, uh..  ask me something non-ascii related
<nahal> do you consider yourself to be a democrat, republican, something a
        bit more intelligent, etc?
<dy452> actually, i understand politics just as much as i understand oldschool:
        i look at it, but don't really have an opinion
<nahal> heh
<nahal> k...inside joke 
<nahal> ok.. i know youve got a girlfriend named jen whos got electric ears..
        tell me about her and your 
        relationship with her.. even her feelings about ascii, etc
<nahal> your sex life, whatever
<dy452> what?  well, shit man.. we've been together over a year, and we're just
dealing with a mildly long-distance relationship right now and some    
   problems that's causing.  truthfully it's not a big deal, the 
university year will be over soon enough.. we'll survive.
<nahal> thats good.. year's a long time.. to have been together that is.
<dy452> realistically there aren't any "problems".
<dy452> yeah, it'll end up being years and years, these feelings won't change
<nahal> i just broke up with my first real girlfriend like 2 weeks ago.. we had
        gone out for like 8+ months... it sucks.
(ed note.. im writing this two weeks later.. im happy i dumped her
shes a fucking sell-out.)
<dy452> yeah?  that's not good.. 
<nahal> nope its not
<nahal> actually it fucking sucks
<nahal> i thot it was gonna like last and shit.. fuck me
<dy452> well hey..  i only showed her my ascii a few weeks ago..  she didn't re
really have any preconceptions about what it was like, so she thought i
    was pretty cool.
<nahal> heh.. thats cool
<nahal> she sounds nice.. (viewers.. she was on a conf with scott a little whil
        back)
<dy452> haha, what's this 'sex life' question..  
<nahal> oh nothing
<dy452> yeah she was pretty reluctant to get on a conf..  sargon didn't help he
        much
<nahal> haha.. yeah.. brads a dick
<nahal> worthless cow tipping hick
<nahal> but all in all.. hes a nice guy i guess.
<dy452> hahaha, you know jen laughed pretty hard at your comment about the "hym
n-wallet"
<nahal> hehe
<dy452> yeah, i have nothing against brad.  (brad: i love you.. jules, you too)
<nahal> aww.. how sweet
<nahal> hmm
<dy452> what do you think about the racist/anti-semitism going on in #ascii, hu
    ?
<nahal> hey.. im supposed to be asking the questions around here..
<nahal> hrmm
<nahal> well you answer this too after im thru
<dy452> well, fuck.  interviews don't have to be completely one-sided
<dy452> sure i'll answer it.
<nahal> i think the people that do it are fucking morons... even if theyre kidd
        ng aroudn.. its fucking stupid
<nahal> cause like.. i dont mean to sound cheesy or anything.. but fuck.. what 
the hell... if it gets to someone.. then well.. thats enuf.. if youve  
  hurt someone about something like that.. then youre a dick
<nahal> fuck.. scott.. i hae to get off.. answer this question (take as long as
        you like) and then ill get off..  can continue this tomorow or somethin
<nahal> sorry
<dy452> man, i'm having trouble expressing what i want to say about this..
<nahal> yeah i know what you mean.. what i said isnt like exactly what i feel .
        and theres like more stuff i wanna add.. but its hard .. right?
<dy452> i mean, sure, racism and anti-semitism is wrong.  that's the bottom lin
        yet, i don't see any irc klans being rallied together to persecute *.il
  either.. it seems that everyone acts alone, and to me.. that's fine.  i
people want to vent their frustations by perpetuating racial stereotype
   on irc, then that's their business
<dy452> i've never encountered anyone who is truly, honest-to-god RACIST
<nahal> true... on irc at least.
<dy452> it doesn't really bother me terribly much.. but then again, i'm not in 
        'minority'.  maybe i'm blind to that shit
<nahal> but ive seen times when people start banning *.il servers  with ban msg
 like .. umm.. fuck i dont remember.. oh yeah.. something about kyke's a
 anyway.. i  know there are a lot of people that it would get to if it 
 was done to them.. you know what i mean? even if the people that were
 doing it were just kidding around  
<nahal> hrmm.. but i guess since i know theyre kidding i dont really do anythin
<dy452> yeah, personally i've never seen shit like that happen..  (the bans, i 
mean)... that's pretty gay
<nahal> ive seen it once.. a couple months back.. skatter and someone else.. do
dont remember who.. umm..  yeah.. i thot that was stupid
<nahal> it was like repeated bans.. you know? thats just fucking dumb
<dy452> haha, skatter is classic.  he's not serious about that shit... i think 
(?) .. hahahaha
<nahal> yeah.. i know.. im not saying i really have anything against him.. caus
 i know hes kidding.. its just like.. there are people who dont.. and it
gets to them .. or might at least
<nahal> skatter: dont hate me
<nahal> brb.. pissing
<dy452> yeah.. well,  it's unrealistic to think you can force everyone to be sh
rie-carie perfect all the time, so why bother.  that's my point of view
   people make realizations and shape themselves up..
<dy452> no point in forcing anything on them
<nahal> back
<dy452> right, word
<nahal> yeah.. i agree with that.. ive never been like.. Hey Buster! STOP THAT!
<nahal> cause like you said.. its pointless
<nahal> back
<nahal> yeah
<dy452> because.. if someone thinks you're talking down to them, they're quick 
to close off their minds
<nahal> you are so wise
<dy452> wise?  not really, but thanks anyhow.
<nahal> but.. (my opinion..) true racism is fucking bullshit tho.. and it reall
   pisses the shit out of me
<nahal> heh
<dy452> yeah.  true racism isn't my cup of tea.. heh
<nahal> god damnit.. ive gotta go.. fuck.. sorry.. this comp is in my mom's roo
        and she wants to go to sleep
<nahal> fuck
<dy452> hahaha, okay man
<nahal> well start this back up tomorow?
<dy452> sure thing..  this is a pretty protracted interview.  i like it... so  
far, 0 elements of humour..  maybe someone will actually read it for th
    substance and not the penis references. .. heh
<nahal> haha
<dy452> PENIS
<nahal> what a word
<nahal> P
<nahal> E
<nahal> N
<nahal> I
<nahal> S
<nahal> p to the e to the n to the i to the s
<nahal> oh baby
<dy452> nahal has mc skills
<dy452> alright man..  we'll hook up tomorrow 
<nahal> yeah
<nahal> i think this is actually coming along pretty well
<nahal> fuck.. my moms about to beat me
<nahal> heh...
<nahal> later
<dy452> see you then, armen e 
<dy452> later
Session Close: Thu Sep 18 10:51:21 1997

Session Start: Fri Sep 19 07:10:14 1997
<nahal> k.. log back on
<nahal> ok.. where were we.. oh yeah.. racism
<dy1>   did you think of any more questions?
<nahal> fuck no
<nahal> hrmm
<nahal> ok.. what do you think of dualing and dualing policies
<dy1>   dualing is fine, but within the realm of reason.  in other words, don't
        be pariah.  hahahaha, sorry pariah..  
<dy1>  i remember when he even released some stuff twice, i'm not sure if it wa
       on accident or just to meet quota.
<nahal> haha
<nahal> yeah.. hate it when people do that
<nahal> god damnit i had a good question to ask
<nahal> fuck i forgot
<nahal> let me think
<dy1>   haha, okay
<nahal> hmm.. oh.. ok.. what do you think about ansi, and why don't you do more
        of it.
<dy1>   ah, actually i started off drawing ansi for a year and a bit, and never
        really got anywhere with it.  the first group i joined was cia, and i
    actually joined it for ansi, and then cain got me into ascii more, and
things went from there
<nahal> thats cool.. id love to see some of your older ansi stuff
<dy1>   right now, though..  i have a hard time drawing ansi, so i've stopped  
        for a while
<nahal> thats cool.. whatever you want.. but.. and i speak for most of the scen
        (i think) when i say this..  youre a fucking amazing ansi logoist
<dy1>   nah, to me i think that's bullshit, because most of the ansi logos i   
 drew.. pretty much sucked cock, in my opinion
<nahal> yeah, well you dont know what the fuck youre talking about, so shut the
        hell up
<nahal> so.. since youve tried both ascii and ansi.. which one do you think is 
harder, better, etc
<dy1>   ansi is way harder, to do it *properly*.
<dy1>   with ascii, you really don't have to put a hell of a lot of time 
        thinking about the composition of what you're 
   drawing, and just draw.  with ansi, to get a good finished product (and
i mean *good*, not just 'cool') you need to spend a lot more time than
   ascii 
<nahal> yeah
<nahal> i agree.. ive tried ansi .. believe me you dont wanna see it... but i 
agree
<dy1>   haha
<nahal> hmm.. heres a question you might not answer (tell me if you dont.. caus
 you dont ahve to answer :)  but what do you think of kwest and what cai
  is/was/has been doing to it
<dy1>   well, what's he been doing to it? :)
<nahal> god damnit.. you know what im talking about
<dy1>   seriously, go ahead and explain it
<nahal> its different from what it started as.. i wanna know what you think of 
        that
<nahal> im not gonna give my opinion.. unless you want me to
<nahal> i think when it started it was tighter.. i think thats obvious
<dy1>   oh, yeah.  well in the beginning, cain lost sight of the original ideal
        and was .. ahh, dissing in the channels, saying 'kwest owns, you suck' 
   in not so many words.  that was a bad move, but he's from the ascii
generation that thinks 'competition = prosperity'.  personally i don't 
  agree with that at all
<nahal> interesting
<nahal> yeah.. cains been around for a while
<dy1>   yeah.
<nahal> i think the genral feel of the ascii scene has changed a lot in the las
        t 1-2 years
<nahal> it was new back then i guess
<nahal> personally .. (this opinion is from looking at/reading old packs) i    
        think it was cooler then
<nahal> i started drawing ascii a year ago..a nd got on irc about 2 months late
.. i think i missed a lot
<dy1>   yeah, maybe it was cooler..  but today it's a little more refined
<nahal> not sure of course
<nahal> yeah.. that definately is true
<nahal> lots of great artists..
<dy1>   yeah, for sure, lots of great artists, things are a lot more about 
        expression nowadays i think..  
<nahal> aha
<nahal> there are pros and cons to both eras.. if you will
<dy1>   well, i can't comment.  i wasn't really around for the oldschool, i onl
hear the legends
<nahal> yeah.. same here
<nahal> next question....
<nahal> what kind of music are you into.. what are your favorite bands
<nahal> et cetera
<dy1>   you name it..  i'm not going to discount country music, that's a popula
        cliche.  i've never really given country a chance, is more like it :)
<nahal> heh
<nahal> billy ray cyrus
<dy1>  is he the achy breaky heart faggot?
<nahal> hahahaha.. yeah
<dy1>   too bad i condemn those texans as faggots.. brad.
<nahal> now that.. you must admit.. is pure bullshit.. in its most concentrated
form
<nahal> heh
<nahal> yeah.. for real tho.. there are a lot of good artists in texas
<dy1>   yeah, there a few that i know of..
<dy1>   Nahal:
<dy1>   oops.
<nahal> :)
<dy1>   fucking nick completion, i can't start a sentence with a period without
        that shit happening
<nahal> what're you using
<dy1>   wow, my mom just served me some shit from a&w
<dy1>   ah, i'm using hamster.
<nahal> oh
<nahal> a&w
<nahal> ?
<dy1>   yeah my mom bought some shit because they have those cheap 99 cent 
        hamburgers 
<nahal> oh
<nahal> they dont have a&w here in new york
<dy1>   bullshit they don't..  what do they have?
<nahal> burger king, mcdonalds, white castle, hmm i think thats it
<dy1>   white castle?  what the fuck is that?
<nahal> heh
<nahal> they've got restaurants shaped like castles and they have burgers that 
        are about the size of quarters and cost just as much :)
<nahal> ooh.. you know what? theres a textile company in florida called 'the 
 armen company'  (www.armen.com)  and theyre making burger king kid's
  club clothes
<nahal> cool eh?
<dy1>   that's the shit!
<dy1>   burgers the size of quarters?!
note: there was a LONG pause following this.. and for no apparent reason.
<dy1>   armen?
<dy1>   fuck..
<nahal> :)
<nahal> say something
<dy1>   something.
<nahal> h0h0. wow
<nahal> hey.. wanna see a tiny ascii that says dy? (note-look at end of file)
<dy1>   sure. 
<dy1>   send it again
<dy1>   that says something!?
<nahal> it says dy :)
<dy1>   ahem.. i'll take your word for it :)
<nahal> hey.. fuck.. ive gotta go for liek 10 mins.. my mom needs to call my da
 in japan (business trip)  do you wanna continue then or do you wanna
just end the interview now
<dy1>   in japan?  holy shit
<nahal> :)
<dy1>   well, okay, let's just end it.  it's stagnating anyhow
<nahal> yeah
<nahal> ok.. this has been an mtv production
<dy1>   i don't get mtv.  
<nahal> youre lucky
<nahal> anyway.. thanks a lot scott
<nahal> anything youd like to say ?
<nahal> final words?
<dy1>   i get the canadian equivalent, "muchmusic".  and believe me, it's 
        horseshit.  you're welcome.
<dy1>   muchmusic blows.  that's all
<nahal> muchmusic has some good stuff on it.. my friend gets it
<nahal> or used to.. i dunno.. i saws it once.. like 5 months ago
<nahal> well? last words?
<dy1>   last words?  well, not really.  maybe..  i hear interzone is nice this 
        time of year
__[part_): dy1 has left channel #discyple.
Session Close: Fri Sep 19 08:01:08 1997

hope you liked the interview -nahal    
by the way.. here is the tiny ascii that i sent scott that says dy
can you see it?

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